Oh most excellent post. Thanks for briignng up that 2008 picture from the marathon. That was the "nice" day fwiw.We should discuss the minions sometime (more of that on Bill's site). Those guys are truly nuts. That "old man" that is in the running for the UROY holds some redonkolous records on the trash can at the Ranger Cottage to the top of the third Flatiron and back route (sub 40?).